Stoicism & Buddhism
The role of desire
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I’ve been thinking about the relationship between Buddhism and Stoicism lately. Top of mind are recent conversations I had with Greg Lopez on Mindfulness and with Noah Rasheta, the author of No Nonsense Buddhism.
There are differences with Buddhism of course. But Stoicism has been called the Western form of Buddhism for a reason.
Noah Rasheta talks about attending a seminar on the meaning of life understood from the perspective of major religions. Most presenters simply answered the question from their perspective – this is what Christianity says, this is what Islam says, this is what Hinduism says, and so on.
The Buddhist flipped the question around and asked, “Why do you want to know?” More important than answering the question, is understanding your desire behind it.
Both Stoicism and Buddhism place our desires and aversions at the root of our suffering.
For the Stoics, our desires for indifferents – status, health, wealth, and pleasure are misplaced.
To see this, Epictetus distinguished between desire and impulse. Desires, when they’re frustrated, result in unhappiness and passion. Like desires, impulses motivate action, but their frustration doesn’t result in suffering. You can think of impulse with the slogan “strong actions, weakly held” – actions are strong because they’re done with resolve and excellence, but they’re weakly held because the world may have other plans.
Buddhism advises that we relax our cravings for things that are not good or realistic. Stoics would do the same. Indeed, Epictetus held that the discipline of desire was the most important domain because if we’re not desiring the right thing, we will miss the mark:
It’s desire that spawns negative emotions and it’s those passions that blind our decisions and judgments.
Beginning with recognition, the Stoic and Buddhist provide ways to master desire.
Bring to mind whether there’s a desire that results in passion. Consider one thing you can do to reduce the intensity of that desire.
🎧️ Listen to the conversations with Greg Lopez and Noah Rasheta here:
Stoicism is a philosophy that is meant to be practiced. Training your perspective changes your character.
Here are five of my favourite Stoic exercises explained:
1. Dichotomy of Control
2. Memento Mori
3. Praemeditatio Malorum
4. View from Above
5. Circumscribe the present
— Michael Tremblay (@_MikeTremblay)
Oct 13, 2023
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